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This a scratchpad for ideas on setting up a Arch Linux based weblog host.

Rationale:

  • To provide (cheap) shell accounts, email services, etc for Arch Linux users who wish to host their weblogs/personal websites on their preferred server OS (Arch Linux, not Debian or Redhat).

Options: There are two possibities that come to mind which are feasable.

  1. Find someone who is willing to colocate an Arch Box for us.
  2. Buy Ram/HD Space from a VM/Xen provider like http://rimuhosting.com/order/startorder.jsp

Discussion:

  • Costs of setting up service and paying per month would be via a money-pooling arrangement. Perhaps we can setup an adsense account + paypal box to help defray costs. I personally am not interested in setting up a non-profit biz (xterminus), and I figure if we can find a few more interested people who would be interested in cooperating in such a venture, we ought to be able to setup a VERY cheap hosting solution for ourselves. - xterminus (Sat Apr 15 17:41:34 PDT 2006)
  • RimU Hosting's cheapest plan is around 20 bucks a month, which really doesn't provide enough ram for apache + mysql to run well. I suggest a plan providing at least 160 megs of ram. ($40 a month). If we can find 6 more people, that would make each user's cost about $5 us a month for hosting.
At this price though, we might be able to simply buy a cheap colo solution though. - xterminus (Sat Apr 15 17:41:34 PDT 2006)
  • Perhaps there in an OSS organization that can is already established as a non-profit org which can help handle the money or even host a box? It would be nice to get a 'corporate' sponsor too though  :) - xterminus (Sat Apr 15 17:41:34 PDT 2006)
  • Do we want a 'common' dns name? Maybe users.archlinux.org or archusers.org? I'm going to assume everybody allready owns a domain name for now - xterminus (Sat Apr 15 17:41:34 PDT 2006)
    • I guess it might be nice to have a front page to add links to everyone... maybe. planet.archlinux.org seems like it would be the ideal place for all the blogs to be linked together. Codemac 21:05, 15 April 2006 (EDT)
  • Isnt it cheaper to go with a Virtual server. I found a offer link here which would be cheaper and guarantee 256MB ram...--Danst0 03:45, 21 June 2006 (EDT)
  • I can offer dservers with the following specs:
 CPU: Celeron D 2.4Ghz
 RAM: 512MB DDR 333Mhz
 HDD: 80GB
 NET: 100Mbit/s
 TRAFFIC: 4TB/mo free traffic (TB as in 1024*1024*1024*1024 bytes :) )
 IPS: one per default, up to 4
 OS: Arch

these go for like 45EUR/mo (includes a tiny fee for my time). kth5

  • There is also Slicehost. 256mg ram, 10gb hd, 100gb bandwidth, for $20/month. Been thinking of getting one for myself actually. Sjoden 21:11, 19 April 2008 (EDT)
    • I've been using Slicehost for some time with Arch Linux. Works fine with 256 MB RAM, with a single exception. Compiling large programs on-line can bog down. Of course, you can compile off-line. I do find that I get constant SSH attacks, but I solved that using the knock daemon documented elsewhere on this wiki. Rod Price 26 Oct 2009.


Issues:

  • Root Access:
I suggest disabling the root user's account and giving out sudo access to those paying + comfortable doing admin tasks. This way we have a log of who's doing what with the root account. - xterminus (Sat Apr 15 17:41:34 PDT 2006)
    • Yea, there is no need for an actual root user, as long as /etc/sudoers exists. Codemac 21:07, 15 April 2006 (EDT)
  • Services:
Apache + MySQL obviously. Keeping memory use low should be a priority. That said, maybe we can provide generic shells for irc users for cheaper or for a one-time fee?
    • Maybe lighttpd instead of Apache? Codemac 03:02, 17 April 2006 (EDT)
    • Ruby as well Codemac 03:02, 17 April 2006 (EDT)

Other Ideas:

  • Asterisk server for real-time voip conferences?
  • Jabber Gateway?
    • I second this. Codemac 21:09, 15 April 2006 (EDT)
  • Email of course.
    • Webmail too?
      • I wouldn't suggest to have a mailservice on such a thing. Too much traffic due to spam and so expensive, network and ressource wise. kth5
  • I don't know where things are with this now, but maybe it makes sense talking to HCoop guys about this idea in general and colocation in particular? foxcub

Todo:

  1. Finish Brainstorming.
  2. Establish a timeline to get it all running
  3. Establish who is in charge of what, where money goes.
  4. Come up with a TOS, do ppl need to sign it or is a click thru okay?

Interested Parties:

Xterminus
Codemac
WillySilly
Ality
droog
GSF
kth5
rxvt
zoglesby
moire
Sjoden
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